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Bespin

  

Theme/Style for KDE 4.0

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Bespin
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Link:  Link
Downloads:  69884
Submitted:  Aug 8 2007
Updated:  Apr 25 2013

Description:

A widget style for Qt4
- Pretty configurable
- More Mac than Windows - but no clone at all
- Don't ask me to port Baghira ;-)

As for what to do with GTK+ applications, have a look here:
http://arch-stuff.org/content/show.php?content=134123

It suites the default look pretty well. Set the "Default" titlebar background colors to 239/239/240 and the text to something dark/gray.

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Thalics complete Bespin Guide is afaik still down, sorry :-(




Changelog:

SVN PATH UPDATE
Due to sf.net updates, the code is now tracked here:
svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/cloudcity/code/ cloudcity-code




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 High CPU

 
 by linuxfever on: Oct 29 2010
 
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On a different matter, I noticed that when opening the settings for bespin (either from command line using "bespin", or the systemsettings) the CPU goes up to 100%.

To reproduce:
1) type bespin on a terminal
2) select one of the options on the left (for example "windows")
3) see CPU spiking up

Is anyone else experiencing this?


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 High CPU

 
 by linuxfever on: Oct 29 2010
 
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On a different matter, I noticed that when opening the settings for bespin (either from command line using "bespin", or the systemsettings) the CPU goes up to 100%.

To reproduce:
1) type bespin on a terminal
2) select one of the options on the left (for example "windows")
3) see CPU spiking up

Is anyone else experiencing this?


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 Re: High CPU

 
 by thomas12777 on: Oct 29 2010
 
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yes - it's the demo widget (and it's gonna be moved into an extra window for this and other reasons)
the textaera (just one of them) starts to infinetly resize (forth & back) on animated stack change - if you enter it, it will just stop and everything is fine from now on.

as far as i can say this started with Qt 4.7, but i really don't know why this happens (and would like a general fix for this...)


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 Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by linuxfever on: Oct 29 2010
 
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Thanks. Is there a way to compile bespin disabling the demo widget? Is it too much hassle?


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 Re: Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by thomas12777 on: Oct 29 2010
 
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yes, ahve a look in config.cpp around line 720 - there should have been the demo init.
however, i'm currently changing this anyway


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by linuxfever on: Oct 29 2010
 
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Thanks. Commenting out a few lines there did the job. Looking forward to the next version!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by thomas12777 on: Oct 29 2010
 
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shipped - rev. 1262. better do "svn revert" in the config subdir before the "svn up"


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by linuxfever on: Oct 29 2010
 
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that was quick, thanks. I confirm it works fine now. Out of curiosity, where is the demo widget now? is it completely removed?



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by thomas12777 on: Oct 30 2010
 
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press the "demo" button (no idea why the apply role places it left... gonna check that somewhen later)

it will show a demo dialog with the current settings (meaning settings as you can see in the config dialog)


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: High CPU

 
 by linuxfever on: Oct 30 2010
 
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thanks, I had not seen the button there... great job.



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 More than one menu on XBar

 
 by Primus on: Nov 11 2010
 
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I'm trying to get more than one menu on XBar, but when I add another
<menu></menu> my whole XBar menu disappears. I have no idea why is that.


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 Re: More than one menu on XBar

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 11 2010
 
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can you send me the actual xml file?


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 Re: Re: More than one menu on XBar

 
 by Primus on: Nov 12 2010
 
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Of course:
<menubar>
<menu menu="MainMenu/kate"/>
<menu label="Desktop">
<action label="Stop Plasma" exec="kquitapp plasma-desktop"/>
<action label="Toggle FX" dbus="session;org.kde.kwin;/KWin;org.kde.KWin;toggleCompositing"/>
</menu>
<action label="Edit Menu" exec="kate $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/XBar/MainMenu.xml"/>
<menu label="Shortcuts">
<action label="Konqueror" exec="konqueror">
<action label="Dolphin" exec="dolphin">
<action label="Writer" exec="soffice -writer">
<action label="Calc" exec="soffice -calc">
<action label="Kate" exec="kate">
<action label="Konzola" exec="konsole">
<action label="System Settings" exec="systemsettings">
</menu>
</menubar>


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 Re: Re: Re: More than one menu on XBar

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 12 2010
 
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take a sharp look at the end of the last <action/> tags.
Remember that xml does not allow quirks and all tags _have_ to be valid, what means closed as well ;-)

Maybe i should add a config gui or at least a warning on invalid xml... =\


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: More than one menu on XBar

 
 by Primus on: Nov 12 2010
 
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Man how could I over look that?


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 Xbar +GTK

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 19 2010
 
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This has probably been asked before, but I have not been to find something online. Is it possible for XBar to also show gtk-apps menubar rather than only KDE ones?


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 Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 19 2010
 
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yupp, native since some months and there's long time been and recently shown up here a wrapper. but with an up to date version you should just be able to add the ggmenu plugin preload* and get the menu in xbar (and mostly only there - this is still a bit wonky)


add this to ~/.xprofile:
export GTK_MODULES=globalmenu-plugin
and this to force the setting. it's however not persistant and optimally xbar un/sets it for you:
globalmenu-settings show-local-menu false show-menu-icons false


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 Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 20 2010
 
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I am not sure I understand. Do I need to compile bespin with some option enabled?

Also, I do not have a .xprofile, should I just create it?

Do I need to install any additional packages?

Finally, is the below a command I have to run?

globalmenu-settings show-local-menu false show-menu-icons false

Sorry, lots of questions...


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 Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 20 2010
 
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no, somehow recent bespin is just fine, but you need the globalmenu plugin library for gtk+ (this is not related to bespin/xbar - you need it to get globalmenu support with gtk+ anyway) and you have to preload it, so it has any effect.

notice: that the globalmenu support is not related to using bespin via gtk-qt to style gtk+ applications - i works with aurora/murrine/pixmapengine/...

~/.xprofile is just a startup script, being interpreted by kdm (so you can place a lot of stuff there) - you could also export this in /etc/profile or so (or startx | ~/.xsession, if you don't use a display manager) -> yes: you can just create it ;-)

globalmenu-settings is part of the gtk+ module to support global menus - ideally you won't have to run the command, cause xbar does on startup. but in case of problems you can put the comand into (and below the gtk_module export) ~/.xprofile as well


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 20 2010
 
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Pity, but I cannot make it work... I installed gnome-globalmenu from source, added the relative stuff to .xprofile, restarted, but menubars still appear on gtk-apps.

As always, thank you very much for your help!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 20 2010
 
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your testcase is hopefully not firefox (that doesn't work - at least not "easily")


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 20 2010
 
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No, it is gimp and inkscape.



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 20 2010
 
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hmmm... do in-window menus show up if you run "globalmenu-settings show-local-menu false show-menu-icons false" /before/ starting the gtk+ application?


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by kallube on: Nov 20 2010
 
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Last time i compiled Bespin was at oct 4th where the menus of gtk applications appear in Xbar and menu bar used to get deleted from applications. In todays version, menus of gtk applications appear in xbar but menu bar still remains with application.



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 21 2010
 
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please try r1285



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by kallube on: Nov 21 2010
 
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It got fixed. :)



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 21 2010
 
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Sorry for the late reply. Yes, in-window menus do show up if I run "globalmenu-settings show-local-menu false show-menu-icons false" before starting the gtk+ application.

However, I tried the above in the GNOME desktop and it works, i.e. menus do not appear.

I do not know if it helps, but this is my .xprofile script:

#!/bin/bash
export GTK_MODULES=globalmenu-plugin;
globalmenu-settings show-local-menu false show-menu-icons false;

which I have also made executable.

Strange thing is, that once I log in the (KDE) desktop, the command "echo $GTK_MODULES" gives me

canberra-gtk-module.

Does this mean that the script is not executed?

I also tried running the commands of the .xprofile manually (after logging in the Desktop), but no success there either.

I am using Bespin's latest revision. Thanks again!



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by thomas12777 on: Nov 21 2010
 
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yes, it means for sure that the plugin is not loaded (a. 'cause it's not in the env, b. 'cause changing the setting has no impact)

~/.xprofile is usually interpreted by most DMs and for sure by KDM (by default) and neither the shebang (#!/bin/bash) nor the semicolons (in general, '\n' is a command terminator as well) nor the u+x are required.

either the file in not interpreted because of the way you start KDE /OR/ whatever canberra is and however it sets the GTK_MODULE variable, overrides the setting (to load them dynamically make "export GTK_MODULE=$GTK_MODULE[?]globalmenu-plugin" where [?] is proably either ":", "," or ";" (i frankly don't know how gtk delimits lists - you'll have to ask some gnome experts on this)


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Xbar +GTK

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 21 2010
 
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Hi again,

I finally managed to get it running, at least partially. I removed the canberra thing, and added the commands of the .xprofile in /etc/profile. Now, "echo $GTK_MODULES" yiels "globalmenu-plugin" as expected.

Now, GIMP and inkscape run OK, but the in-window menus in Nautilus still appear (not that I care about Nautilus, just testing it though).

Anyway, for me it is more than OK now. Thanks again for your help Thomas!



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 Xbar +GTK (again)

 
 by linuxfever on: Nov 22 2010
 
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Hello again,

Running a gtk-application from a terminal, it sometimes (1 or 2 out of 10) pops the following error:

GlobalMenu:Settings-CRITICAL **: file settings.c: line 463: uncaught error: Key file contains line 'changed-!' which is not a key-value pair, group, or comment (g-key-file-error-quark, 1)

When this error appears (and _only_ then), the menubar appears on both XBar and the application itself.

Is anybody else having this? Thanks in advance.


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 Compile with custom preset

 
 by beojan on: Dec 12 2010
 
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Is it possible to compile bespin in such a way that my custom preset settings are the default settings.


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 Re: Compile with custom preset

 
 by thomas12777 on: Dec 12 2010
 
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No (how?), why?

What you could do was to modify "config.defaults" (it's "mostly" used, some -few- settings however are still hardcoded in the config dialogs or the style/deco, i think...)


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 Re: Re: Compile with custom preset

 
 by beojan on: Dec 12 2010
 
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I want KDM to use my bespin preset for dialogs such as the shutdown dialog or the XDMCP dialog.

Unfortunately, config.defaults uses a different syntax to the presents
(the preset uses an INI style syntax, whereas config.defaults is really a header file)


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 Re: Re: Re: Compile with custom preset

 
 by thomas12777 on: Dec 12 2010
 
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no problem.

store your preset and link it to the application "KDM"*, and copy or symlink ~/.config/Bespin/[*.conf] to /root/.config/Bespin (kdm runs as root, this is why your user settings are ignored)

*doubleclick the area right of the preset entry


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Compile with custom preset

 
 by beojan on: Dec 12 2010
 
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That doesn't work

bespin continues to use default settings in KDM even after root's settings are changed


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